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Miami Club & Lincoln/Liberty Slots banned me from Tournaments
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Constantin  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 16, 2014 5:02:49 PM(UTC)
Constantin

Joined: 7/2/2011(UTC)
Posts: 611
Romania
Well, to put it straight I think I know what and when to play in order to make a profit.
And I am doing this without using bonuses because of the hassle of non clearly terms etc.

We've all heard about brick and mortar casinos banning card counters or pro players.
But I have never heard of a real casino banning seasoned tournament players.
Well, Miami Club Casino and Liberty Slots / Lincoln Casino managed this performance.

I am registered from Gambling City at these casinos, and I had some good runs few months ago.
I was risking serious money every week, but somehow managed to win 1st place many times.
Runner ups were always two guys behind me for places 2nd and 3rd, they are battling for 1st now.

After I have won some good money in a few months run I was banned from their tournaments.
I have contacted Mr. Graeme who did his best, but the casino guys rejected his proposals.

The reason was basically that I have been winning too much! - Come on, that's total bullsh*t!
Why do you care if someone wins much more than the others when you payout that prize anyways?

The only logic is: the other 2 guys which were always after me, were actually house players!

So my advice, (and warning) is: be careful with these tournaments you are likely to play against house players.
And if somehow you still manage to beat these casino hired/house players, well, you may be shown the back door.

Edited by moderator Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:22:46 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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sharon  
#2 Posted : Sunday, September 21, 2014 8:52:06 PM(UTC)
sharon

Joined: 8/6/2011(UTC)
Posts: 75
WOW, that is BS! I used to play in those tournaments all the time at RTG casinos and come to think of it I recall seeing the same players names always at the top of the winners list. Shame on the casinos for hiring house players. Just goes to show how dishonest casinos can be. Sorry that happened to ya Constantin.
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Constantin  
#3 Posted : Monday, September 22, 2014 9:23:32 AM(UTC)
Constantin

Joined: 7/2/2011(UTC)
Posts: 611
Romania
Sharon, I was talking about the WGS software tournaments and not about RTG ones.

There is a difference: in the WGS ones you can rebuy when you have a low balance, while in the RTG ones they use a Winning Box (just like in Microgaming ones) to show your score. For RTG there are usually 100 add-ons (and for Microgaming 999).

In these types of tournaments I agree we should see the top 6-10 players being the same from tournament to tournament, because not many people can dedicate 17 hours (10 minutes x 100 add-ons) or so to play in a tournament when each add-on also have its $cost. And I don't even want to think who would play 999 continues for Microgaming tournaments! BTW, in the RTG ones I was one of the few players always paying and playing the 100 add-ons and almost always been in the top 2-8. - But time invested is not worthy for the money won.

But now thinking, what you say makes sense for RTG tournaments too: - if Deck Media has set up house players for Miami Club WGS software tournaments (which I am 100% sure they did - otherwise they wouldn't be concerned of me "winning too much"), they could as well set up 10-15 house players for their RTG tournaments too, so there is high chance that at least part of the money remains with them!

BTW, house players may very well not be real humans which spend their time playing for the site, but simply pre-programmed robots.
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Johnny  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 17, 2014 6:21:43 PM(UTC)
Johnny

Joined: 10/6/2014(UTC)
Posts: 19
Hi Constantin.
However sad it is,i believe your right about those "house players" or maybe even more those pre-programmed "robots".
The Chicken inside me won't allow me to name any casino by name,because my "inner-chicken" do like to play WGS.

I do recall especially one time i played a tournament at a WGS. Every time i got in front and was #1,left the tournament and did some real play in the casino,then went back to the tournament to check,i was then #2. I played until i was #1 again,left and when i went back to check,i was #2 again. That went on doing that tournament 5 times,and it didn't matter how far ahead i was,every time i came back i was behind up to nearest $100. If i had $1350,then when i came back #1 had $1400. If i then played up to $1700,then when i came bask #1 had $1800. It didn't matter if i was gone for 15 minutes or 1 hour,the "dude" that was second when i left always manage to get a little ahead when i came back to check. The same "dude"! Do i need to tell that i came in second!!!!!

After that experience I'm just happy if i win a little bit of money in the tournaments. Sadly,but THAT tournament "stole" my "inner-happy-always-believing-everything-is-fair-feeling".

Now (after reading your story) i know it wasn't just me "gone mental" now i know better than that,THANX!
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